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Neither (so far, NO) demonstration has been definitive! Casting shade on EITHER side is ridiculous.
One: "I tested a vial from California!" One: "I tested a vial from Spain!" Both: "They differ! You MUST be a liar or a corrupt bad person!"
I refer everyone again to the website: how badismybatch -- which is TRACKING vial dispersal…
Neither (so far, NO) demonstration has been definitive! Casting shade on EITHER side is ridiculous.
One: "I tested a vial from California!"
One: "I tested a vial from Spain!"
Both: "They differ! You MUST be a liar or a corrupt bad person!"
I refer everyone again to the website: how badismybatch -- which is TRACKING vial dispersal and the levels of injuries and deaths across, at least, the U.S. IN those dispersal areas. It is a complete GIVEN that these TRACKABLE differences 100% MEAN the 'stuff' in the vials are different, right? The logic of a 12-yr-old can see that!
So -- instead of forming up tug-of-war TEAMS to insult and try to downgrade this or that researcher -- HOLD your determinations, and consider the bigger picture! STOP maligning one or another researcher or research team... If someone disagrees with something YOU find persuasive, do NOT start shouting that s/he's compromised and an enemy agent! (Although I'm sure we all agree Fauci-Mengele is a murderous enemy agent to the human species!!)
I'm ... riled up right now, having just spent an hour answering people MIS-describing (as far as I've found so far) Dr Ryan Cole in Sweden. Suddenly, he's an enemy agent mistreating one of "our" ( THEIR!) heroes by 'jumping up on stage, stealing a mic, interrupting her presentation and harranguing Stuckle-somebody.' She is a *metals* expert - NOT a medical expert (as far as I know; I'm off to watch her presentation next). Except the video of Cole speaking that I have seen is clearly BETWEEN presentations; Stuckle.... is SITTING with others on the stage, preparatory to the NEXT presentation, a panel discussion apparently. The audience is very loud talking to each other,
Cole walks off the stage asks for and get a mic, CALMLY walks back onto the stage and says he disagrees. (You know, like you DO at a professional meeting where people disagree!!)
He ACTUALLY begins with the exact phrase: "before the panel begins..." (Kinda like PROOF Cole did not 'interrupt' the sitting Stuckle... who was speaking with the person next to her, NOT presenting to the crowd; doncha think?) Stuckle.... jumps up and hastens to the podium mic (next to Cole) and tries to argue *over* him, some guy in the audience jumps up and starts screaming at Cole...
Everyone keeps missing that Ryan Cole is ALWAYS 100% polite and reserved when disagreeing! No yelling, no insults, no shouting... he merely presents HIS SIDE, and waits for the other side's answer. I've never even seen him INTERRUPT another speaker (howinthehell he does THAT baffles me!).
BUT, in leaping up and shouting to defend THEIR hero ("She's right, she's the ONLY one on the planet who is right! And WE know she's right universally, so everyone else HAS to be wrong and an enemy agent!!!") (Yeah, see? I'm still ... riled up... but not sorry, because this is the way our enemies ALWAYS sow discord and destroy our efforts to find the truth; and we LET them!!) How about ... (oh, you know) professionally disagreeing, maybe even having a CALM discussion with Cole?! Novel thought, that....
So, Tina? We HAVE no demonstrations that are adequate to make the MANY determinations that we urgently need. We are blind men feeling a (huge and murderous) elephant (with an insane and vicious mahout!). And many of our "blind men" are making some pretty damned good and useful conclusions on the basis of the parts they have examined... and some (as is always true in science and medicine -- and in daily life) are making some wrong conclusions. The only WAY to find the truth is to keep working and talking with each other , not decide "anyone who disagrees with me is evil!"