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God has not anointed me with the ability to have a broad and long-term strategic view so theories like yours and Sage Hana's help me to see the potential consequences of what is happening thus impacting my tactical actions. Even though these scenarios are hard to read...my muscles tighten, my jaw clenches, my brow furrows, I take a deep breath and envision Jesus is holding my hand daily as I walk through life which helps to relax my shoulders and open my mind to hear Him speak to me. I remind myself to not make decisions of the flesh but to take God-inspired actions as God moves through our life in faith, not fear. The most difficult thing for me to be calm with though is knowing that God's time can be many lifetimes. Recycle...taking a deep breath, connecting with God... We're in for the long haul.

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My comment is similar to yours:

"Do not give up. One can only do their part and do their best. Your strength can help other people be strong. People must have their wits about them, be agile, understand what they need to survive, and prepare their oil lamps. In the end, truth will prevail and it will be a glorious moment."

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Those have been precisely my thoughts. Although I attribute their fail, from The Great Reset to The Great Demolition, to an absolute inability to acknowledge competence in those whose opinions do not support their goals. In fact, the competent must be deleted from their society of elites as soon as they show independent thought contrary to the implementation. I also question their ability to maintain all of the infrastructure necessary to the "control grid" for 24/7 monitoring.

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Thanks to PA Act 50 paving the way for "small cells" and the 5G network to proliferate, "Big Brother" will be everywhere, monitoring everything and controlling much more than you would like to imagine. It's already done in China. Unless we fight the "5G rollout", 24/7 monitoring will become the new normal and we'll be irradiated and slowly sickened by the non-stop irradiation of microwaves everywhere. https://repealact50.org/

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Life always seems to find a way. Humans are amazingly industrious when pressured. There are still dissenters in china who manage to get the word out, eke out an existence. It's finding those tears in the fabric of their fallible human plans that will be their undoing.

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The boot descends. They’ve been spraying our skies, microwaving us into frazzles. We’re still around, but....

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We will need highly ethical persons in all three branches of government, all levels of government, as was intended. I do not believe it's just up to the courts. Courts can be shut down or lawsuits delayed. If people just to continue to go along with whatever though, we seal our fate . That's why I believe the biggest change we can make is at the micro-level with friends and family. Even without technology to reach large masses, these are the persons we are most responsible for.

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Another big help would to remove all persons with conflicts of interest from all federal agencies - the FCC, FDA, EPA, FTC, etc. These agencies are NOT acting in the public interest but are completely manipulated and controlled by the industries they are supposed to regulate.

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remove all federal agencies-make congress do their jobs

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I agree. The argument against what you suggest is the only people competent to head up these agencies are the ones trained by the Corporations.

Nah! First we do as you suggest. The when all heads of these organizations and their employees are installed and have proven no conflict of interest then begins the way of Truth. The heads of the organizations can require in depth information from said corporation to be share unredacted with the public. That is how democracy is supposed to work. If said corporation refuses on any grounds that is contempt. Discovery becomes a very powerful tool. And since it is contempt heads of corporations are held in jail without bail until the request is fulfilled or the Corporation no longer peruses the coarse of action provoking the investigation in the first place.

Ah as they say "If wishes were horses beggars would ride"

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Exactly. It must be about going local and avoiding centralized power. No more deep state.

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The inevitable economic doom is always a part of civilizations in free fall? In light of the following please comment!

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Downloaded and skimmed it. January 2013 report on “energy, finance and the end of growth.”

Some thoughts:

I got into these issues originally through the ‘peak oil’ theory, by way of Richard Heinberg’s 2005 book The Party’s Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies, which laid out implications of M. King Hubbert’s work about Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) of finite oil resources on financial and economic systems that depend on cheap, easily accessible oil to function properly. Particularly debt-based systems.

Heinberg’s work was closely related to the Club of Rome’s 1972 Limits to Growth report.

From 2005 until 2020, I thought about peak oil and EROEI as a geochemical, technical issue that required relocalization of food, water, economic production and distribution systems. So I worked with Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund on rights-based local government projects, and started and/or supported several small local food, homesteading and water supply protection organizations.

However.

Since 2020 and watching in real-time as data has been massively manipulated to influence group and individual behavior, , I’ve come to the conclusion that the Club of Rome Limits to Growth report, the peak oil movement, overpopulation panic, the climate change panic and others, have been part of the psy-op mass formation project of the globalists.

I do not know the true status of world oil reserves; I know only what the International Energy Agency (created in 1974) and other captured globalist institutions *say* about oil reserves.

Maybe resource overconsumption, debt and economic doom are always part of civilizations in free fall, and that’s just a natural process that’s being manipulated for personal gain by the elites sitting on top of the current civilzation’s power structure

But it’s also possible that this particular story about resource overconsumption, debt and economic doom is being created, engineered and/or projected onto the minds of the world’s people right now, by those same elites, in service to Satan, for the purpose of delivering human souls to eternal damnation by destroying faith in God.

Nowadays, I lean toward the second interpretation of events.

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What an amazing series of comments and thoughts throughout this entire thread discussion!

THIS is what may make a real difference.

THIS is why I come here, over and over.

I am in agreement with your second interpretation.

As much as is under assault right now, it is good to remember the #1 target on the list is our Christian faith. Everything else may be simply the "wilderness of mirrors."

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It may be also that the #1 Target is our faith in anything at all, including ourselves and our families. Their aim is to separate us from meaningful spirituality or meaningful engagement. Faith in our interdependent realities going forward inspires meaningful dialogue and change. Hopefully we can transcend and help future generations live free.

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It is always divide and conquer, everything, so yes you are exactly correct.

Didn't the emperor tell Luke his faith in his friends was his biggest weakness?

It was also his biggest strength, greater even than the force.

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I recall a few years ago that geologists were confirming that fossil fuels are constantly being replenished inside the earth, since there's always more and more "fossils" in varying levels of decay. I also recall in the 70s, my sixth grade science teacher panicking us because "the world was running out of fresh water," and "the next ice age was imminent." These numbskulls never know as much as they think, and always forget about the laws of economics that go into effect in times of scarcity to hasten innovation. 😒

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As an aside my 6th grade teacher had us all get the morning paper for a week. The first day she opened with “the first thing to know is half of what’s in this paper are lies.” 30 jaws hit our desks. She went on to explain the many ways inaccuracy works it’s way into the papers. Spring of ‘75 it was. One of the best teachers I had!

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These good teachers have powerful influence. A 7th grade literature class taught Julius Caesar, the Iliad & the odyssey, and the ways of propaganda. A 13th grade literature teacher taught Camus. It echoes strongly today.

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another aside. It is 1958 and world war and nuclear weapons are top of the list. We practice getting under our desks and required reading was propaganda against Soviet propaganda. Time keep changing.

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Yes. And even as children we knew getting under desks was nonsense. When people around me were terrified, I told them we had nothing to worry about because we were near a SAC base = prime target. We wouldn't be around to worry about fallout.

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The unconventionals program in the US/Canada turned the oil industry on it's head. It put the US back into the top exporter category, was a massive job creator for highly-paid professionals and put the world on notice. That was a direct threat to certain OPEC nations. Instead of taking this amazing growth and push for energy independence, the US government refused to put any kind of strategic plan in place - that was workable and realistic to not only conserve our output but have a real transition plan to different sources of energy, like solar. The far-left dems are so ignorant, arrogant and stupid, they wouldn't know a strategic plan to benefit our country if it was handed to them. They are subject to the WEF and UN and don't give a toss about the soverignty of the USA. Back to oil production....it's always been a supply and demand commodity. We've had $10/barrel oil and $150/barrel oil. The Middle East OPEC nations need a minimum cost/barrel to fund their countries. When we were in Saudi, it was about $75/barrel. And they didn't want it too high because then they'd have to cut production. So, the current oil "crisis" could be better managed to keep cost/barrel more reasonable but we have WEF accolytes running Canada and NZ, we have a senile pawn running the US (who put the country in a world of hurt by shutting down Keystone, impacting funding for oil companies and not working with our oil industry to help Americans - and what idiot gives away oil from OUR Strategic Petroleum Reserve?), AND we have crazy man in Russia (an OPEC nation) who doesn't give a toss about cooperating with the rest of the planet. This is a very manageable situation if we had competent leaders who cared about the people in their countries. These guys do not care about us and they are the problem.

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Silly, impotent old men running the planet? There’s an answer there.

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I can't blame Putin or disparage him. He is a NATIONALIST...Russia always comes first.

And he has no reason whatsoever to cooperate with us...all Biden has been doing is threatening him and poking the bear...indeed all the Dems have since the Trump Russia collusion...so you won't look west to China. Honestly WE BROKE OUR WORD we would NOT install NATO next to their borders...and we BROKE OUR PROMISE.

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We broke OUR promise? Stop listening to the Russian "apologists.'

Read the Budapest Memorandum.

1800 nuclear warheads (world's 3rd largest at the time) returned to Russia for guarantees of sovereignty, borders, peace, and yes, we signed that deal too, China, Europe also.

A signed deal, show me one for NATO 'borders'? It does not exist.

Putin said the agreement didn't apply after our politicians took credit for a coup, they didn't have anything to do with except perhaps the snipers.

The resulting Ukraine cluster made the US crooks tens of billions, Hunter millions, and Putin got Crimea for free. FREE!

This was the "flexibility" Obama spoke of having "after his last election."

The Dem Marxists have been joined at the hip with the Russians since 1932, and probably before. This fake "divide" between them is the most incredibly never reported story since the Communists went underground in 1991, Christmas Day, believe it or not.

Out of the four Generals behind the Soviet 'coup' against Gorby, did you know Putin gave three of them "Hero of the Russian Federation" medals in the early 2000s?

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You should start your own Sub, gal!

Most of the politicos are ignorant, greedy, incompetent morons following direction from some 'shadowy figures' that are meticulously planning our surrender and capitulation and they are too stupid to see that it is their heads that will be first on the chopping block.

It always works out like this.

ALWAYS

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If you're referencing me, I'd rather start a coalition! 😉

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So maybe in the 1970's "they" decided there were just too many people to manage and thus control in a somewhat invisible way - a way in which direct blame cannot be attributed to them as in previous totalitarian societies.

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Maybe true but there is certainly sufficient blame to go around presently. I think the Naziism just continued to expand in the ever increasingly corruptible environments. It crept in on little cat burglar feet.

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Good Day KW Norton,

I have found the following:

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https://archive.org/details/gottfried-feder-the-program-of-the-nsdap-the-national-socialist-workers-party-an

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It is the work of Gottfried Feder, done before Hitler came to power. He was against capitalism and communism. He believe the farmer was the real power of a nation. Hitler seized on his theory and Dr. Feder supported his efforts in order to see this economic idea put into practice. It worked very well. Germany left bankruptcy and began thriving as a nation. Hitler militarized Feder's economic ideas which Gottfried wasn't interested in. Hitler relegated him to a minor post in the Reich.

I never encountered this economic theory before. I suspect it is buried behind the horror of Nazi Germany and Nazisum in general. I am not a Nazi, but I feel we really don't have an honest history of events. My finding this is just one item uncovered in the long long history of controlling the historical narrative.

I appreciate you thoughts and am stimulated by them. Thank you.

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Thanks. Yes my understanding is that it is the small, sometimes infinitely small, that is the real power. Such as those at the real small center - such as farmers and mothers, fathers and hunters. We humans tend to be impressed with the large, the energy which is after all only the expression of the truly powerful - the sometimes massively compressed small forces.

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Look at how the EU is treating the farmers in NL.

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That rings true to me. Most likely they realized this decades before.

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You made my heart lighter. I know there are enough reserves for another 400 years...and by that time, my faith is in the inventiveness of the human race to find alternative sources.

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Yes, we are epic survivors and we haven’t always been as committed to self -sabotage as we are today. The manipulation of social media and an aligned State has increased our plunge toward collective insanity. Inventive solutions based on what may have worked before are the key.

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I wouldn't bet on 400 years, but there is probably enough for our lifetime...

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Interesting paper because of the intersection of the advantages/disadvantages of continuing our dependence on petroleum. It certainly jogs the mind on various issues but yes the same crew belonging to the WEF & Co is not usually so well expressed even counting the obvious flaws in reasoning which seem to be present. Thanks.

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Good day Katherine,

I differ a bit on this interpretation. First I agree we don't know the true status of anything. This has been true for a very long time. Most of us have been working for the blob, helping to gather data etc. or in the engineering and construction professions to build blob stuff. So I agree with your honesty and wish to drink deep your humility about not knowing and I know even less than you by far.

My issue is really ethical. Prior to coal, oil etc. there were human and animal slaves. At best they may have been loved servants. So coal, oil etc. did not heal our inner nature to control others for our benefit. The result of that shadow slavery is a world deeply polluted, in water, air and soil. Now more than at any other time people and every living being are under subjugation in the arising technocracy.

Consider this, the oil, coal, and the like have been sequestered by nature (to me) or God. If we look at the substances that we sequester in our lives or culture (think atomic energy waste that no one really knows how to dispose of) we may understand the wisdom of sequestering those toxic forms of energy. If one considers life on earth at about 3.5 billion years and the waste sequestered then what does that imply?

Implications for me is that our desire to enslave (almost anything) was amplified many times when we had access and later mined coal oil etc. Our inner demon so to speak is being fed by these energy sources. To me at the deepest level there is something unethical about the plundering of the Earth.

I am guilty of using the plunder of the Earth. But day by day I turn my back on plunder and look toward Eden. The "Tree of Knowledge" is the way we went. We didn't choose "The Tree of Life". And as I see it now the Tree of Life is so complex when one considers all that lives. So much more engaging. Also there is no way for their to be a worldly king or blob following the way of The Tree of Life.

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I finally realized that slavery lasted as long as it did (I'm talking back to Egyptian times) because ENERGY was not plentiful.....it was HUMAN MUSCLE. Oil and gas and the STEAM engine changed the equation for the BETTER....instead of using animal or human muscle, we could have plentiful energy and didn't need to ENSLAVE entire peoples anymore...The cotton gin, John Deere, etc. etc. etc.

That is the bottom line on Slavery and oil, gas, coal and hydro/nuclear energy. Windmills were dangerous, and while water was good (grinding corn and wheat) civiliation and the freeing of human beings came about because of OIL and GAS energy.

Full stop.

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I share you realization about slavery. I don't feel it is FULL STOP.

With modern ENERGY we haven't given up slavery. It is Slavery on steroids. With modern ENERGY we actually enslave the whole planet. We force every living being to partake of air, water, soil pollution through no fault of their own. By every living being I am excluding humanity and myself. For I continue to cause lesser beings much suffering when I drive my car (which is now occasionally) or use propane or electricity. I don't ride a bike in my area as they are very narrow roads and I have been injured several times the last time a car knocked me off the road and it took me six months to recover. A friend who rode a bike all the time said to me there is no way he would ride a bike on these roads. It is just to dangerous. So now I drive again.

We humans put such horrific stress upon the Earth. There are examples in the world where people didn't have slavery. The Pueblo Indian of the Southwestern US is one example. Most North American Indians didn't have slavery. So it is possible to be health happy and in harmony with nature without slavery. But that requires a huge datum shift in each of us who enslave the world.

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I keep hoping they fail, but there can be soooo much destruction & death before all of it falls apart….

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The powers are deliberately trying to foment civil war. So much destruction & death has already occurred, but sure can get worse.

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Civil War will be the excuse to apply marshal law. For our own good of course.

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By buying this deception we buy all their deceptions. Once you realize what they are doing is all for show to grab control because they are actually so impotent you lose patience with their silly shadow play.

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Right b4 midterms too

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I sure hope not. If we can keep the midterms "honest", it could be our chance to turn things around.

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BeadGirl, I do too but an animal is most dangerous when cornered & the DimocRAT donkeys know they’re in for a bloodbath in the midterms. If they can “scare” everyone about a new “variant” or food & fuel shortages create utter chaos in the streets, they could institute marshal law or decree voting by mail-in &/or Dropbox….

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I cannot argue your logic, Cindi. We know with whom we are dealing...

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Agree!

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We have world government. It relies on local government and treaties. Think of this as de-centralized governance, quasi-feudal, imposing obligations on nation states, not a Federal system. Covid-19 proves this is the case. Every nation with few exceptions is all in on vaccination. No nation has isolated or cares to do the purported virus.

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Katherine Watt wrote:

They may become irrelevant, because they no longer control the media (which may become unmanageably fragmented), or the global financial/social credit system (which may become technologically too complex to manage).

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By (speaking politely) reducing the population the blob eliminate the problems outlined above. You delete the population until you reach a level that can be managed/controlled by the Blob's human and environmental management systems.

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The legal profession is captured. I found these guys hard to swallow a few years back but they are deep sea divers by comparison to others https://aim4truth.org/2022/07/12/justice-john-roberts-recuses-himself-for-conflicts-of-interest-with-knights-of-malta/

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It’s naive to think that society can continue on in any concerted way without punishment of our captors. We must show humanity that those who have sponsored immeasurable physical, spiritual and emotional devastation will be held accountable. Otherwise the threat will always remain.

Accountability and consequence is not a choice. It is pertinent to the well being of a future earth.

The fact that an aware father, for example, who lost his child to the vaccine, does not strike out in anger at those responsible is telling. We have been rendered powerless to exact our own retribution. It will have to come from those who have been able to retain a moral conscience, who can bring to bare the entire story of our captivity, and who feel compelled to lead by a higher power. It is not clear, at present, whom, if any, can be identified as such. The fog of war has blindsided us all and the tyrants, whom we once thought “good,” reveal themselves as tyrants on a daily basis. Nothing is clear.

What is certain is that many more will die before the waters part and we are led across the river. Many more will suffer. Many will starve, go mad, and certainly err on the side evil as the “normies” are doing now. We have many miles to go before we sleep.

But the hangings must be part of the greater story. As someone who has witnessed the death of family members from their bioweapon Covid, I will not settle for anything less.

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Great Reflect wrote:

We must show humanity that those who have sponsored immeasurable physical, spiritual and emotional devastation will be held accountable. Otherwise the threat will always remain.

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I deeply share this feeling. Yet when a group of men wanted to stone a woman (prostitute???). Jesus began writing in the sand and said to the effect "he who is without sin caste the first stone"

The sin we see about us is also in us. I sincerely feel we must take individual responsibility for the integrity and robust health of our innate and adaptive immune systems. When we do that we invariably have to care for the Earth and each other. It seem a better path. Remove the beam in my own eye to see clearly the mote in my fellows eye.

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They may mot even be able to generate enough electricity to keep their tottering surveillance state going. And who is going to feed 'them' and their band of enforcers? Not the Dutch farmers anyway.

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You make a good point.

However the Elite are few as are their enforcement arm the local law enforcement. So we will be the ones going without electricity and gas/fuel. Food too. The Elite and enforcers will be well fed. It has always been thus. We need look no further than Rome.

You mention the Dutch Farmers, sadly their land can be confiscated as a national emergency. The sheeple will go along. What else is there for them to do.

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The NWO will likely become a reality in about 15 - 25 yrs and there will be no triumph over the masonic banking cabal until Jesus returns and judges this evil and insane world with his Trumpet and Bowl judgments.

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Chaos reminds of this post from 2014

Order Out Of Chaos: The Ebola Outbreak Is The Perfect Scenario For The Elite To Use To Implement Their NWO System

"...Ebola virus/outbreak (again whether real or fake) is the perfect scenario for the WHO/UN to implement several MAJOR elements of their wanted international New World Order system.."

-Justified chaos/breakdown

-Justified emergency powers

-Justified lockdowns/checkpoints

-Justified forced quarantines/isolation

-Justified travel restrictions

-Justified forced relocation

-Justified mass body scanners

-Justified "information" restriction/control

-Justified "false cure" restrictions

-Justified tracking/tracing

-Justified experimental vaccine testing

-Justified forced vaccination programs

-Justified food/water/gas rationing

-Justified military intervention

-Justified UN intervention

-Justified rebellion scapegoat

-Justified ban on public gatherings/protests

-Justified citizen disarmament

-Justified removal of physical money

-Justified monetary collapse(bail-in)/restructuring

-Justified international cooperation/solution

-Justified population reduction

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2619867/pg1

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I think they'll blow themselves up so to speak before they can gain total control globally. Think about the type of personality it takes to want to rule the world. There will be infighting and power plays and many will want to ht the one in charge. It's their nature. The question is, how much damage will they do in the meantime?

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Actually, your scenario is the optimal one IMO. Kind of starting from scratch. I care less about punishing all of these charlatans (but don't get me wrong, I love to see them all hanged) than I do about securing a decent future for my kids. Getting out of this American "rut" even if we go bakwards a bit actually sounds great.

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Katherine Watt wrote:

Sometimes I think about another scenario, in which the chaos that the hubristic, heretical Blob has unleashed, also overwhelms them.

Without the miracle of courageous political will, leadership, courts and legislators (which I would love to see), their extermination program may fall apart from sheer lack of their own administrative capacity to deal with the forces they’ve set in motion so far.

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What you say is true. I personally believe we must take control of our individual situations as best we can. We much choose a lifestyle that honors and enhances our innate and adaptive immune systems. We are a micro cosmos of Gaia. By caring for our own immune systems we care for all living, we care for the Earth and we are not part of those who would destroy Earth

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